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*'''[[Effect::Stimulation]]''' - DOB is usually considered to be extremely stimulating at levels which do not become overwhelming and are encouraged instead of forced. This results in a shakiness and unsteadiness of the hands at high dosages, but encourages the person to move around, run, dance, climb and generally engage in physical activities. The level of stimulation varies between users with some people reporting it to be somewhat similar to [[amphetamine]] in its intensity and others reporting that it is extremely subtle even at higher dosages. In comparison, other more commonly used [[psychedelics]] such as [[psilocin]] are generally sedating and relaxed.  
*'''[[Effect::Stimulation]]''' - DOB is usually considered to be extremely stimulating at levels which do not become overwhelming and are encouraged instead of forced. This results in a shakiness and unsteadiness of the hands at high dosages, but encourages the person to move around, run, dance, climb and generally engage in physical activities. The level of stimulation varies between users with some people reporting it to be somewhat similar to [[amphetamine]] in its intensity and others reporting that it is extremely subtle even at higher dosages. In comparison, other more commonly used [[psychedelics]] such as [[psilocin]] are generally sedating and relaxed.  
*'''[[Effect::Spontaneous bodily sensations]]''' - The "body high" of DOB is manifested as somewhat intense in comparison to most classical [[psychedelics]] such as [[LSD]]. The sensation itself can be described as a constantly present yet somewhat mild energetic pins and needles sensation that encompasses a person’s entire body. It is usually static in its position and felt over every square inch of the skin as if it was coming from behind the user's body. Occasionally, however, it manifests itself in the form of a continuously shifting tingling sensation that travels up and down the body in spontaneous waves.
*'''[[Effect::Spontaneous bodily sensations]]''' - The "body high" of DOB is manifested as somewhat intense in comparison to most classical [[psychedelics]] such as [[LSD]]. The sensation itself can be described as a constantly present yet somewhat mild energetic pins and needles sensation that encompasses a person’s entire body. It is usually static in its position and felt over every square inch of the skin as if it was coming from behind the user's body. Occasionally, however, it manifests itself in the form of a continuously shifting tingling sensation that travels up and down the body in spontaneous waves.
*'''[[Effect::Physical euphoria]]'''
**'''[[Effect::Physical euphoria]]''' - It should be noted that this effect is not as reliably induced as it is with substances like stimulants or entactogens, and can just as easily manifest as physical discomfort without any apparent reason. DOB and other psychedelic amphetamines tend to lean towards physical dysphoria more so than other psychedelics.
*'''[[Effect::Changes in felt bodily form]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Bodily control enhancement]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Tactile enhancement]]''' - Feelings of enhanced tactile sensation are consistently present at moderate levels throughout most DOB experiences.  
*'''[[Effect::Tactile enhancement]]''' - Feelings of enhanced tactile sensation are consistently present at moderate levels throughout most DOB experiences.  
*'''[[Effect::Stamina enhancement]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Stamina enhancement]]'''
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*'''[[Effect::Increased heart rate]]'''{{citation needed}}
*'''[[Effect::Increased heart rate]]'''{{citation needed}}
*'''[[Effect::Increased blood pressure]]'''{{citation needed}}
*'''[[Effect::Increased blood pressure]]'''{{citation needed}}
*'''[[Effect::Increased perspiration]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Muscle contractions]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Muscle contractions]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Muscle spasms]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Muscle spasms]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Muscle cramps]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Muscle cramps]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Headaches]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Difficulty urinating]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Nausea]]''' -  Moderate to extreme nausea is typically reported when consumed in moderate to high dosages and either passes once the user has vomited or gradually fades by itself as the peak sets in.  
*'''[[Effect::Nausea]]''' -  Mild to extreme nausea is typically reported when consumed in moderate to high dosages and either passes once the user has vomited or gradually fades by itself as the peak sets in.  
*'''[[Effect::Appetite suppression]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Appetite suppression]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Stomach cramps]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Stomach cramps]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Vasoconstriction]]'''{{citation needed}} - This effect is reported to be more common than with other psychedelics and can feel prominent and uncomfortable.
*'''[[Effect::Vasoconstriction]]'''{{citation needed}} - This effect is reported to be more common than with other psychedelics and can feel prominent and uncomfortable.
*'''[[Effect::Dehydration]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Dehydration]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Mouth numbing]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Olfactory hallucination]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Gustatory hallucination]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Increased salivation]]'''  
*'''[[Effect::Increased salivation]]'''  
*'''[[Effect::Pupil dilation]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Pupil dilation]]'''
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====Distortions====
====Distortions====
*'''[[Effect::Drifting]]''' ''([[Drifting#Melting|melting]], [[Drifting#Flowing|flowing]], [[Drifting#Breathing|breathing]] and [[Drifting# morphing|morphing]])'' - In comparison to other psychedelics, this effect can be described as highly detailed, slow and smooth in motion, static in appearance and unrealistic/cartoon-like in style.  
*'''[[Effect::Drifting]]''' ''([[Drifting#Melting|melting]], [[Drifting#Flowing|flowing]], [[Drifting#Breathing|breathing]] and [[Drifting# morphing|morphing]])'' - In comparison to other psychedelics, this effect can be described as highly detailed, slow and smooth in motion, static in appearance and unrealistic/cartoon-like in style.  
*'''[[Effect::Colour shifting]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Depth perception distortions]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Perspective distortions]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Symmetrical texture repetition]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Tracers]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Tracers]]'''
*'''[[Effect::After images]]'''
*'''[[Effect::After images]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Symmetrical texture repetition]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Brightness alteration]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Colour shifting]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Diffraction]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Scenery slicing]]'''


====[[Effect::Geometry]]====
====[[Effect::Geometry]]====
DOB visual geometry can be described as more similar in appearance to that of [[LSD]], [[25I-NBOMe]] or [[2C-B]] than that of [[ayahuasca]], [[psilocin]] or [[DMT]]. It can be comprehensively described through its [[Visual_effects:_Geometry#Variations|variations]] as intricate in complexity, algorithmic in form, synthetic in feel, brightly lit, multicoloured in scheme, glossy in shading, sharp in edges, large in size, fast in speed, smooth in motion, equally rounded and angular in its corners, non-immersive in-depth and consistent in intensity. Higher dosages are significantly more likely to result in states of [[Effect::8A Geometry|Level 8A]] visual geometry over [[Level 8B]].
DOB visual geometry can be described as more similar in appearance to that of [[LSD]], [[25I-NBOMe]] or [[2C-B]] than that of [[mescaline]], [[psilocin]] or [[DMT]]. It can be comprehensively described through its [[Visual_effects:_Geometry#Variations|variations]] as intricate in complexity, algorithmic in form, synthetic in feel, brightly lit, multicoloured in scheme, glossy in shading, sharp in edges, large in size, fast in speed, smooth in motion, equally rounded and angular in its corners, non-immersive in-depth and consistent in intensity. Higher dosages are significantly more likely to result in states of [[Effect::8A Geometry|Level 8A]] visual geometry over [[Level 8B]].


====Hallucinatory states====
====Hallucinatory states====
DOB is capable of producing a full range of low and high level hallucinatory states in a fashion that is significantly less consistent and reproducible than that of many other commonly used psychedelics. These effects include:
DOB and other [[substituted amphetamines]] produce a full range of high-level hallucinatory states in a fashion that is more or less consistent and reproducible than that of many other commonly used [[psychedelic]]s. These effects include:


*'''[[Effect::Transformations]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Transformations]]'''
*'''[[Effect::External hallucination]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Internal hallucination]]''' (''[[effect::autonomous entities]]''; ''[[effect::settings, sceneries, and landscapes]]''; ''[[effect::perspective hallucinations]]'' and ''[[effect::scenarios and plots]]'') - In comparison to other [[psychedelic]]s such as [[LSD]], DOB is extremely high in internal hallucinations when approaching higher dosages. They are more common within dark environments and can be comprehensibly described through its [[Internal_hallucinations#Variations|variations]] as lucid in believability, interactive in style, new experiences in content, autonomous in controllability, [[geometry]]-based in style and almost exclusively of a personal, religious, spiritual, science-fiction, fantasy, surreal, nonsensical or transcendental nature in their overall theme.
*'''[[Effect::Internal hallucination]]''' (''[[effect::autonomous entities]]''; ''[[effect::settings, sceneries, and landscapes]]''; ''[[effect::perspective hallucinations]]'' and ''[[effect::scenarios and plots]]'') - Although DOB is technically capable of producing hallucinatory states in a fashion that is on par with [[psilocin]] or [[DMT]] in its vividness and intensity, in comparison, these effects are extremely rare and inconsistent. Whilst traditional psychedelics such as [[LSA]], [[ayahuasca]] and [[mescaline]] will induce internal hallucinations near consistently at level 5 [[geometry]] and above, DOB will for most simply go straight into [[Level 8A]] [[geometry]]. This lack of consistently induced hallucinatory breakthroughs means that for most, DOB is not as deep of an experience as certain other [[psychedelics]].
*'''[[Effect:: External hallucinations]]''' - These are often present during the comedown and can include [[shadow people]], among other indescribable beings. These external hallucinations are often lucid, interactive, autonomous, and robust. As [[sleep deprivation]] and [[stimulant psychosis]] surface, a [[trip sitter]] should accompany individuals sensitive to stimulants for the last part of the comedown. The visual effects of psychosis have been reported to blend into the psychedelic visuals around the 16-24 hour mark, sometimes accompanied by auditory hallucinations.


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The head space of DOB is described by many as one of mental stimulation and a powerful enhancement of a person's current mental state. Many users report that it may not be as deep as other traditional psychedelics such as [[LSD]] or [[psilocin]] and that it is comparatively empty regarding its insightfulness.
The head space of DOB is described by many as one of prominent mental stimulation and a powerful enhancement of a person's current mental state. Many users report that it may not be as deep as other traditional psychedelics such as [[LSD]] or [[psilocin]] and that it is comparatively empty regarding its insightfulness.


*'''[[Effect::Anxiety]]''' & '''[[Effect::Paranoia]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Anxiety]]''' & '''[[Effect::Paranoia]]'''
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*'''[[Effect::Language suppression]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Language suppression]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Memory suppression]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Memory suppression]]'''
**'''[[Effect::Ego death]]'''
**'''[[Effect::Ego death]]''' - While DOB is technically able to produce states of ego dissolution, it tends to more often than not develop only in extremely high doses, with grave physical and mental side effects being apparent and is often of a terrifying nature.
*'''[[Effect::Time distortion]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Time distortion]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Thought loops]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Thought loops]]'''

Revision as of 20:15, 24 November 2018

Summary sheet: DOB
DOB
Chemical Nomenclature
Common names DOB, Brolamfetamine, Bromo-DMA
Substitutive name 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine
Systematic name 1-(4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-2-aminopropane
Class Membership
Psychoactive class Psychedelic
Chemical class Amphetamine
Routes of Administration

WARNING: Always start with lower doses due to differences between individual body weight, tolerance, metabolism, and personal sensitivity. See responsible use section.



Oral
Dosage
Threshold 0.2 mg
Light 0.2 - 0.75 mg
Common 0.75 - 1.75 mg
Strong 1.75 - 3 mg
Heavy 3 mg +
Duration
Total 14 - 24 hours
Onset 30 - 90 minutes
Come up 2 - 4 hours
Peak 6 - 10 hours
Offset 4 - 8 hours
After effects 4 - 16 hours









DISCLAIMER: PW's dosage information is gathered from users and resources for educational purposes only. It is not a recommendation and should be verified with other sources for accuracy.

Interactions


4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine (also known as dimethoxybromoamphetamine, brolamfetamine, bromo-DMA, and commonly as DOB) is a psychedelic substance of the amphetamine class that produces unusually long-lived psychedelic effects when administered. It is a member of the DOx family of psychedelic amphetamines.

While DOB had first been synthesized in 1967 and briefly tested in 1971, it took until the 1991 publication of the book PiHKAL ("Phenethylamines I Have Known And Loved") by Alexander Shulgin to be documented in-depth.[1]

Today, DOB is used as a recreational drug and an entheogen. It is still rarely sold online but is more commonly found in the streets the form of misrepresented LSD due to its ability to fit onto similar-sized blotter paper.[citation needed]

Very little data exists about the pharmacological properties, metabolism, and toxicity of DOB in humans. Along with its sensitive dose-response, unusually long and unpredictable duration, many reports also suggest that this substance may be overly difficult to use safely for those who are not already very experienced with using hallucinogens. It is highly advised to use harm reduction practices if using this substance.

Chemistry

DOB or 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-amphetamine is a molecule of the amphetamine class. Amphetamines are substituted phenethylamines containing a phenyl ring bound to an amino (NH2) group through an ethyl chain and a methyl group bound to the alpha carbon Rα. DOB contains methoxy functional groups OCH3 attached to carbons R2 and R5 as well as a bromine atom attached to carbon R4 of the phenyl ring. DOB is the amphetamine analogue of the phenethylamine 2C-B.[2]

Pharmacology

Further information: Serotonergic psychedelic

DOB's psychedelic effects are believed to come from its efficacy at the 5-HT2A receptor as a partial agonist. Due to its selectivity, DOB is often used in scientific research when studying the 5-HT2 receptor subfamily. It has been suggested that DOB is a prodrug metabolized in the lungs.[3][4] DOB is an agonist at the Trace-Amine-Associated-Receptor-1 (TAAR1) which contributes to the Amphetamine-Like stimulation.[5]

Site Binding Affinity (nM)
5-HT2A 0.6
5-HT2H 0.44
5-HT2L 59
5-HT2C 69
5-HT1A 3,700
5-HT1B 831
TAAR1 Missing Data

However, the role of these interactions and how they result in the psychedelic experience continues to remain elusive.

Subjective effects

Disclaimer: The effects listed below cite the Subjective Effect Index (SEI), an open research literature based on anecdotal user reports and the personal analyses of PsychonautWiki contributors. As a result, they should be viewed with a healthy degree of skepticism.

It is also worth noting that these effects will not necessarily occur in a predictable or reliable manner, although higher doses are more liable to induce the full spectrum of effects. Likewise, adverse effects become increasingly likely with higher doses and may include addiction, severe injury, or death ☠.

Physical effects

Visual effects

Cognitive effects

Multi-sensory effects

Transpersonal effects

Experience reports

Anecdotal reports which describe the effects of this compound within our experience index include:

Additional experience reports can be found here:

Toxicity and harm potential

The toxicity and long-term health effects of recreational DOB use do not seem to have been studied in any scientific context and the exact toxic dose is unknown. This is because DOB is a research chemical with very little history of human usage.

Anecdotal reports from those who have tried DOB suggests that there are no negative health effects attributed to simply trying the substance by itself at low to moderate doses and using it very sparingly (but nothing can be completely guaranteed). Independent research should always be done to ensure that a combination of two or more substances is safe before consumption.

It is strongly recommended that one use harm reduction practices when using this substance.

Tolerance and addiction potential

DOB is not habit-forming, and the desire to use it can decrease with use. It is most often self-regulating.

Tolerance to the effects of DOB is built almost immediately after ingestion. After that, it takes about 4-7 days for the tolerance to be reduced to half and 7-10 days to be back at baseline (in the absence of further consumption). DOB presents cross-tolerance with [[Cross-tolerance::all psychedelics]], meaning that after the consumption of DOB all psychedelics will have a reduced effect.

Overdose

The LD50 for DOB is unknown. Anecdotal reports suggest that serious overdose on DOB can start past the 3.5 milligram mark, although this number may be less for sensitive users. Overdose effects typically include bizzare, delusional and sometimes violent behavior, amnesia, numbness, confusion and anxiety. The user may not be able to communicate and can be severely agitated. At appropriately high doses, more serious side effects such as panic attacks, seizures, dangerously elevated heart rate, blood pressure and vasoconstriction may occur.[citation needed] Severe vasoconstriction typically develops to its peak several hours into the intoxication and may require medical assistance if blood flow is significantly cut off for extended periods of time.

In the event of an overdose, benzodiazepines can be administered to mitigate the hyperagitative effects.[citation needed] A powerful vasodilator may also need to be administered to prevent a hypertensive emergency, or in more serious cases, necrosis, organ failure and death from the resulting hypoxia.[citation needed] As a result, emergency medical services should always be sought in the event of a DOB overdose.

Dangerous interactions

Warning: Many psychoactive substances that are reasonably safe to use on their own can suddenly become dangerous and even life-threatening when combined with certain other substances. The following list provides some known dangerous interactions (although it is not guaranteed to include all of them).

Always conduct independent research (e.g. Google, DuckDuckGo, PubMed) to ensure that a combination of two or more substances is safe to consume. Some of the listed interactions have been sourced from TripSit.

Internationally, DOB is a Schedule I drug under the Convention on Psychotropic Substances.[7]

  • Australia: DOB is listed as a Schedule II substance in Australia.[citation needed]
  • Austria: DOB is illegal to possess, produce and sell under the SMG (Suchtmittelgesetz Österreich).[citation needed]
  • Canada: DOB is listed as a Schedule 1 as it is an analogue of amphetamine.[8]
  • Latvia: DOB is a Schedule I controlled substance.[9]
  • New Zealand: DOB is Schedule I (Class A) in New Zealand.[citation needed] DOB would also qualify as an analogue under New Zealand's catch-all analogues section in Schedule 3 / Class C of their drug laws which would make 2C-I, 2C-E, DOI, DOB, ephedrine, and pseudoephedrine Schedule 3 compounds in the country.
  • Poland: DOB is controlled in Poland.[10]
  • Switzerland: DOB is illegal in Switzerland.[11]
  • United Kingdom: DOB is Schedule I/Class A in the U.K., making it illegal to sell, buy, or possess without a license.[citation needed]
  • United States: DOB is Schedule I in the U.S., making it illegal to sell, buy, gift, produce or possess without a DEA license.[citation needed]

See also

Discussion

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