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==Chemistry==
==Chemistry==
[[File:ket/canket.png|400px]]
2F-NENDCK belongs to the [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Arylcyclohexylamines arylcyclohexylamines] category of substances, this category includes ketamine, PCP and other substances alike.
2F-NENDCK belongs to the arylcyclohexylamines category of substances, this category includes ketamine, PCP and other substances alike.
2F-NENDCK is remarkably simmilair to ketamine structually, it only differs in 2 points. ( see photo {{#l:image 2.png}} )
2F-NENDCK is remarkably simmilair to ketamine structually, it only differs in 2 points.
==Pharmacology==
==Pharmacology==
{{pharmacology}}
{{pharmacology}}
there has been no official pharmacology or lab testing done on 2F-NENDCK


==Subjective effects==
==Subjective effects==
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|{{effects/physical|
====Effect::physical====


You may select physical effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Physical effects|here]].
You may select physical effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Physical effects|here]].


*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Dizziness dizziness] 2F-NENDCK  
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Dizziness dizziness] 2F-NENDCK can have dizzy/spinning head effects in moderate dosage. some users report difficulty walking.
*[ https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Sedation sedation] 2F-NENDCK has little sedation in lighter doses, but can induce ketamine like sedation in higher doses. 2F-NENDCK's sedation is closer related to heavy [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Cannabis Cannabis] couch lock.
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Sedation sedation] 2F-NENDCK has little sedation in lighter doses, but can induce [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine] like sedation in higher doses. 2F-NENDCK's sedation is closer related to heavy [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Cannabis Cannabis] couch lock.
*[Physical effect3]
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Motor_control_loss motor control loss] 2F-NENDCK in higher doses can induce lack of control of limbs and motor control, not quite to the same level or intensity as [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine] or even [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/2-Fluorodeschloroketamine 2F-DCK]
}}
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Dehydration Dehydration] no formal human lab testing has been done but reportabley users find themselves to be moderately dehydrated especially in higher doses.
{{effects/visual|
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Tactile_suppression tactile suppression] 2F-NENDCK can suppress and numb the sense of touch, in higher doses it can reportabley generate full body "swooshing" feelings as if you are vibrating deeply.
If applicable, a brief paragraph summary of the substance's visual effects may be included here.  
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Pain_relief pain relief] Although 2F-NENDCK hasn't been known to be as numbing as [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine], it still has been known to have light pain suppression and irritation relief
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Optical_sliding optical sliding] The user's eyes may wiggle and shake (a condition known as nystagmus), particularly at higher doses, this typically creates trouble seeing and results in a fuzzy, blurry image.
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Increased_salivation increased salivation] this seems to only be apparent when [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Insufflated Insufflated].
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Gustatory_hallucination Gustatory hallucination] some users report gustatory hallucinations such as a metallic taste.
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Difficulty_urinating Difficulty urinating] As like [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine] or even [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/2-Fluorodeschloroketamine 2F-DCK], 2F-NENDCK often induces [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Difficulty_urinating Difficulty urinating] and some even report a stinging pain. not enough is known to say for sure but it is suspected it could have potential long term effects on the bladder, This is known as [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4544340/ Ketamine Bladder]
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Orgasm_suppression orgasm suppression]
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Decreased_libido Decreased libido]
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Physical_autonomy Physical autonomy] Relatively uncommon, but may occur in some users. Users may feel as if their body is performing gestures and movements outside of their own control.


You may select visual effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Visual effects|here]].
====Effect::visual====


====Enhancements====
====Enhancements====
*'''[[Effect::Visual acuity effect1]]'''
There isn't any notable visual enhancements while using 2F-NENDCK.


====Distortions====
====Distortions====
*'''[[Effect::Visual distortion effect1]]'''
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Double_vision double vision] Prevalent at moderate to heavy doses and can make reading text impossible unless closing one eye.
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Pattern_recognition_suppression pattern recognition suppression] typically happens at higher doses, renders the user trouble recognizing objects, faces, places etc.
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Acuity_suppression acuity suppression]
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Frame_rate_suppression frame rate suppression] not to the same extent as [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine], but can still be present in higher doses
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion]
 
 


====[[Effect::Geometry]]====
====[[Effect::Geometry]]====
If applicable, a brief paragraph summary describing the visual geometry produced by the substance may be included here.
there isn't much geometry hallucinatory effects, unlike [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine], where users often experience, [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Environmental_cubism environmental cubism], [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Environmental_orbism environmental orbism], [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Machinescapes machinescapes]. overall the 2F-NENDCK experience is less "deep and introspective" mentally and visually, where as [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine] can often produce outer worldly perceptions and hallucinations in higher doses.
====Hallucinatory states====
====Hallucinatory states====
If applicable, a brief summary of the substance's visual effects profile may be written here.
there isn't a notable level of [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Internal_hallucination internal] and/or [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/External_hallucination external hallucination] unlike [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine] which has been known to have indescribable hallucinations both internally and externally.
 
*'''[[Effect::Hallucinatory states1]]'''
 
}}


|{{effects/cognitive|
====cognitive====
If applicable, a brief paragraph summary of the substance's cognitive effects may be included here.


You may select from a list of cognitive effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Cognitive effects|here]].
You may select from a list of cognitive effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Cognitive effects|here]].


*'''[[Effect::Cognitive effect1]]'''
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Analysis_suppression analysis suppression] although 2F-NENDCK can produce a "cloudy" and "hazy" mind state, it is quite light compared to [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine] and is typically only experienced in higher doses.
*'''[[Effect::Cognitive effect2]]'''
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Anxiety_suppression anxiety suppression] anxiety suppression can be found in light to moderate doses, althought in higher doses it can create some anxiety and fear based off your [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Set_and_setting set and setting].
*'''[[Effect::Cognitive effect3]]'''
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Cognitive_euphoria cognitive euphoria] users report a moderate level of euphoria, although it is quite timid compared to [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine].
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Compulsive_redosing compulsive redosing] users typically report compulsive redosing due to its short duration, fast onset and overall "weaker" experience compared to [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine].
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/D%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu deja vu] some light Deja vu can be experienced in moderate doses.
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Delusion delusion]
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Derealization derealization]
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Focus_suppression focus suppresion] The ability to focus on a single task or object may be strongly suppressed. Its mental effect can be described as "scattering" and "non-linear"; occurs alongside analysis suppression. 2F-NENDCK can also be experienced as a general "lose" feeling.
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Immersion_enhancement immersion enhancement] there is often a feeling of being somewhere else, for example, if you were watching a video of someone on a farm, you might feel as if you are there, in that farm. this is typically found in higher doses.
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Increased_music_appreciation increased music appreciation]
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Spatial_disorientation spatial disorientation]
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Time_distortion time distortion] in higher doses it can typically induce time distortion, not to the same intensity of [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine].


}}
====auditory====
{{effects/auditory|
If applicable, a brief paragraph summary of the substance's auditory effects may be included here.


You may select from a list of auditory effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Auditory effects|here]].
You may select from a list of auditory effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Auditory effects|here]].


*'''[[Effect::Auditory effect1]]'''
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Auditory_distortion auditory distortion]
*'''[[Effect::Auditory effect2]]'''
*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Auditory_suppression auditory suppression]
 
}}
{{effects/multisensory|
If applicable, a brief paragraph summary of the substance's multisensory effects may be included here.  
 
You may select from a list of multisensory effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Multisensory effects|here]].
 
*'''[[Effect::Multisensory effect1]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Multisensory effect2]]'''
 
}}
{{effects/transpersonal|
If applicable, a brief paragraph summary of the substance's transpersonal effects may be included here.  
 
You may select from a list of transpersonal effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Transpersonal effects|here]].
 
*'''[[Effect::Transpersonal effect1]]'''
*'''[[Effect::Transpersonal effect2]]'''


}}
}}
}}
}}
===Experience reports===
===Experience reports===
There are currently {{#ask:[[Category:SUBSTANCE]][[Category:Experience]] | format=count}} experience reports which describe the effects of this substance in our [[experience index]].
there are no notable trip reports online.
{{#ask: [[Category:SUBSTANCE]][[Category:Experience]]|format=ul|Columns=1}}
Additional experience reports can be found here:
* [https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_SUBSTANCE.shtml Erowid Experience Vaults: SUBSTANCE] <!-- Check the link to see if it exists -->
 
==Toxicity and harm potential==
==Toxicity and harm potential==
{{toxicity}}
{{toxicity}}
It is strongly recommended that one use [[responsible use|harm reduction practices]] when using this substance.
It is strongly recommended that one use [[responsible use|harm reduction practices]] when using this substance, also learn about [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Responsible_drug_use responsible drug use] before using this and any psychoactive substance.
===Lethal dosage===
===Lethal dosage===
there has been no documented lethal dose or any dose for that matter.
The following is a rough guide for dosing ketamine as a reference (not 2F-NENDCK):
LOW DOSE – 20-50 mg
MEDIUM DOSE – 50-125 mg
STRONG DOSE – 125-175 mg
HEAVY DOSE, POSSIBLE ANAESTHESIA – 175+ mg
===Tolerance and addiction potential===
===Tolerance and addiction potential===
===Dangerous interactions===
===Dangerous interactions===
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==Legal status==
==Legal status==
{{LegalStub}}
{{LegalStub}}
at the moment I can not find any hard evidence on its legality in Australia although as it belongs to the [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Arylcyclohexylamines arylcyclohexylamines] category of drugs, i can only assume it isn't federally legal and i would worn anyone on possessing, distributing and purchasing this substance.


==See also==
==See also==

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Summary sheet: 2F-NENDCK
2F-NENDCK
Chemical Nomenclature
Common names DMT, Dimethyltryptamine, Dmitri
Substitutive name N,N-Dimethyltryptamine
Systematic name 2-(1H-Indol-3-yl)-N,N-dimethylethanamine
Class Membership
Psychoactive class Psychedelic
Chemical class Tryptamine
Routes of Administration

WARNING: Always start with lower doses due to differences between individual body weight, tolerance, metabolism, and personal sensitivity. See responsible use section.



Oral
Dosage
Bioavailability x% - y%[1]
Threshold x - mg
Light x - y mg
Common x - y mg
Strong x - y mg
Heavy x mg +
Duration
Total x - y hours
Onset x - y minutes
Come up x - y minutes
Peak x - y hours
Offset x - y hours
After effects x - y hours


Sublingual
Dosage
Bioavailability x% - y%
Threshold x - mg
Light x - y mg
Common x - y mg
Strong x - y mg
Heavy x mg +
Duration
Total a - b hours
Onset a - b minutes
Come up a - b minutes
Peak a - b hours
Offset a - b hours
After effects a - b hours







DISCLAIMER: PW's dosage information is gathered from users and resources for educational purposes only. It is not a recommendation and should be verified with other sources for accuracy.

History and culture

{{2F-NENDCK (short for 2-fluoro-N–ethylnordeschloroketamine, also known as CanKET, 2’-fluoro-2-oxo-PCE or 2-FXE) is a novel synthetic dissociative drug was first identified in Canberra, Australia (2022) at Cantest, a legal anonymous substance testing site, Novel synthetic substances have been typically put under the category of "designer drug" CanKet (Canberra Ketamine) gained its name for its Ketamine like properties and effects. Canket has since been discovered being manufactured in laboratory's in mainland China and Taiwan. The original CanKet samples and many since have reportably came from sales at festivals and bush parties in the NSW mountain ranges specifically around the Brindabella mountain range. At CanTEST, 2F-NENDCK has been found numerous times in samples that were expected to be ketamine. According to CanTEST’s final evaluation, only 57% of the 81 samples expected to be ketamine actually contained ketamine as of April 2023. The remaining 43% of the 81 samples contained other dissociative drugs, including 2F-NENDCK, 2F-DCK, and tiletamine (a veterinary dissociative anaesthetic), as well as other psychoactive and non-psychoactive compounds. According to DrugsData.org, a drug checking service in the US that analyses samples sent by mail, numerous samples sold as ketamine, FXE, 2F, MXE, 2F-DCK, and even heroin, fentanyl and ibogaine, actually contained 2F-NENDCK.}}

Chemistry

2F-NENDCK belongs to the arylcyclohexylamines category of substances, this category includes ketamine, PCP and other substances alike. 2F-NENDCK is remarkably simmilair to ketamine structually, it only differs in 2 points. ( see photo {{#l:image 2.png}} )

Pharmacology

This pharmacology section is incomplete.

You can help by adding to it.

there has been no official pharmacology or lab testing done on 2F-NENDCK

Subjective effects

This subjective effects section is a stub.

As such, it is still in progress and may contain incomplete or wrong information.

You can help by expanding or correcting it.

Disclaimer: The effects listed below cite the Subjective Effect Index (SEI), an open research literature based on anecdotal user reports and the personal analyses of PsychonautWiki contributors. As a result, they should be viewed with a healthy degree of skepticism.

It is also worth noting that these effects will not necessarily occur in a predictable or reliable manner, although higher doses are more liable to induce the full spectrum of effects. Likewise, adverse effects become increasingly likely with higher doses and may include addiction, severe injury, or death ☠.

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Effect::physical

You may select physical effects to add below here.

  • dizziness 2F-NENDCK can have dizzy/spinning head effects in moderate dosage. some users report difficulty walking.
  • sedation 2F-NENDCK has little sedation in lighter doses, but can induce ketamine like sedation in higher doses. 2F-NENDCK's sedation is closer related to heavy Cannabis couch lock.
  • motor control loss 2F-NENDCK in higher doses can induce lack of control of limbs and motor control, not quite to the same level or intensity as ketamine or even 2F-DCK
  • Dehydration no formal human lab testing has been done but reportabley users find themselves to be moderately dehydrated especially in higher doses.
  • tactile suppression 2F-NENDCK can suppress and numb the sense of touch, in higher doses it can reportabley generate full body "swooshing" feelings as if you are vibrating deeply.
  • pain relief Although 2F-NENDCK hasn't been known to be as numbing as ketamine, it still has been known to have light pain suppression and irritation relief
  • optical sliding The user's eyes may wiggle and shake (a condition known as nystagmus), particularly at higher doses, this typically creates trouble seeing and results in a fuzzy, blurry image.
  • increased salivation this seems to only be apparent when Insufflated.
  • Gustatory hallucination some users report gustatory hallucinations such as a metallic taste.
  • Difficulty urinating As like ketamine or even 2F-DCK, 2F-NENDCK often induces Difficulty urinating and some even report a stinging pain. not enough is known to say for sure but it is suspected it could have potential long term effects on the bladder, This is known as Ketamine Bladder
  • orgasm suppression
  • Decreased libido
  • Physical autonomy Relatively uncommon, but may occur in some users. Users may feel as if their body is performing gestures and movements outside of their own control.

Effect::visual

Enhancements

There isn't any notable visual enhancements while using 2F-NENDCK.

Distortions


there isn't much geometry hallucinatory effects, unlike ketamine, where users often experience, environmental cubism, environmental orbism, machinescapes. overall the 2F-NENDCK experience is less "deep and introspective" mentally and visually, where as ketamine can often produce outer worldly perceptions and hallucinations in higher doses.

Hallucinatory states

there isn't a notable level of internal and/or external hallucination unlike ketamine which has been known to have indescribable hallucinations both internally and externally.

cognitive

You may select from a list of cognitive effects to add below here.

  • analysis suppression although 2F-NENDCK can produce a "cloudy" and "hazy" mind state, it is quite light compared to ketamine and is typically only experienced in higher doses.
  • anxiety suppression anxiety suppression can be found in light to moderate doses, althought in higher doses it can create some anxiety and fear based off your set and setting.
  • cognitive euphoria users report a moderate level of euphoria, although it is quite timid compared to ketamine.
  • compulsive redosing users typically report compulsive redosing due to its short duration, fast onset and overall "weaker" experience compared to ketamine.
  • deja vu some light Deja vu can be experienced in moderate doses.
  • delusion
  • derealization
  • focus suppresion The ability to focus on a single task or object may be strongly suppressed. Its mental effect can be described as "scattering" and "non-linear"; occurs alongside analysis suppression. 2F-NENDCK can also be experienced as a general "lose" feeling.
  • immersion enhancement there is often a feeling of being somewhere else, for example, if you were watching a video of someone on a farm, you might feel as if you are there, in that farm. this is typically found in higher doses.
  • increased music appreciation
  • spatial disorientation
  • time distortion in higher doses it can typically induce time distortion, not to the same intensity of ketamine.

auditory

You may select from a list of auditory effects to add below here.

}} }}

Experience reports

there are no notable trip reports online.

Toxicity and harm potential

This toxicity and harm potential section is a stub.

As a result, it may contain incomplete or even dangerously wrong information! You can help by expanding upon or correcting it.
Note: Always conduct independent research and use harm reduction practices if using this substance.

It is strongly recommended that one use harm reduction practices when using this substance, also learn about responsible drug use before using this and any psychoactive substance.

Lethal dosage

there has been no documented lethal dose or any dose for that matter. The following is a rough guide for dosing ketamine as a reference (not 2F-NENDCK):

LOW DOSE – 20-50 mg

MEDIUM DOSE – 50-125 mg

STRONG DOSE – 125-175 mg

HEAVY DOSE, POSSIBLE ANAESTHESIA – 175+ mg

Tolerance and addiction potential

Dangerous interactions

This dangerous interactions section is a stub.

As such, it may contain incomplete or invalid information. You can help by expanding upon or correcting it.

Warning: Many psychoactive substances that are reasonably safe to use on their own can suddenly become dangerous and even life-threatening when combined with certain other substances. The following list provides some known dangerous interactions (although it is not guaranteed to include all of them).

Always conduct independent research (e.g. Google, DuckDuckGo, PubMed) to ensure that a combination of two or more substances is safe to consume. Some of the listed interactions have been sourced from TripSit.

This legality section is a stub.

As such, it may contain incomplete or wrong information. You can help by expanding it.

at the moment I can not find any hard evidence on its legality in Australia although as it belongs to the arylcyclohexylamines category of drugs, i can only assume it isn't federally legal and i would worn anyone on possessing, distributing and purchasing this substance.

See also

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